GRM top 20 cars from the past 20 years

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GRM top 20 cars from the past 20 years

Postby fastneons » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:03 pm

Is your car on the list?

Taken from December 2004 GRM (Grassroots Motorsports)

1979-93 Ford Mustang
1983-84 VW Rabbit GTI
1984-87 Dodge Omni GLH Turbo/Shelby GLHS
1984-96 Chevy Corvette
1985-87 Honda CRX Si
1986-91 Porsche 944 Turbo/Turbo S
1988-92 Chevy Camaro 1LE
1989-94 Nissan 240SX
1990-94 Diamond Star Triplets
1990-present Mazda Miata
1991-95 Toyota MR2 Turbo
1992-95 Honda Civic Hatchback
1993-95 Mazda RX7
1995-1998 Dodge/Plymouth Neon ACR
1995-98 BMW M3
1997-98, 2001-01 Acura Integra type R
1997-present Porsche Boxster/Boxster S
2001-04 Chevy Corvette Z06
2001-present Subaru Impreza WRX
2001-present Mini Cooper/Cooper S
2002 Porsche 911....almost as fast as an srt4

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Postby JoeE » Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:33 am

A former car is.

1983-84 VW Rabbit GTI

My first autocross car. I kinda miss it, until I turn on my seat heaters. :wink:
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Postby rkaiser » Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:07 am

Does a STI still count as a Impreza WRX :) I see they have The E36 BMW M3 listed. I personally think the late 80's early 90's E30 M3 is a better car. If I didn't have the Cosworth I'd would have bought my friends 89 M3
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Postby RayAR » Tue Dec 07, 2004 11:44 am

I guess I am wondering best at what? Some of those cars shouldn't be on that list. 79-93 Mustang? Common as belly buttons, Lots of potential but stock it isen't great.They have no more potential then a non 1LE Camaro and why is the very rare 1LE Camaro on the list? The only difference between a 1LE and regular Camaro is the front spindle and the 1LE is a stripped down car. If you can find a 1LE expect to pay $15,000+, IMHO thats not great. 1st gen DSM? The second gen was a much better car all around. They can be bought dirt cheap the but considering the 1LE, price isen't a consideration :roll: 944 Porsche? Except for great handleing, why? GLHS? Well.....At least it is the ultimate sleeper. C4 Corvette? I like Vettes but what makes this version great? Maybe if it was a ZR1.

I guess I wonder what criteria they used in selecting these cars. Some are easily modified, some are cheap, some are very rare, some are great off the showroom floor(the ones that should be on the list), some can be made great with a little work, Some handle well, some have great engines, etc.
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Postby fastneons » Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:02 pm

I had a few I felt should not have been on the list, mainly the dsm's. I just feel that car is just too fragile, and cheap. I drive a neon, so its not like I have high standards. Before anyone gets mad, I have owned one. They also keep me fairly busy with engine R&R's at work. Along with their many electrical nightmares. And while the second gen was better, it still would not merit being on this list.

On the whole, I would have to say I agree with a lot of the cars on the list.
2002 Porsche 911....almost as fast as an srt4

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Postby Kevin NB8C' » Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:33 pm

RayAR wrote:1st gen DSM? The second gen was a much better car all around.

C4 Corvette? I like Vettes but what makes this version great? Maybe if it was a ZR1.


1st gen DSM because the engines seem more reliable, and not prone to crank walk i guess? :)

The C4 was one of the first easily obtained cars that could pull over 1g in a turn. The ability to take HUGE meaty tires helped. Prepared C4's can still keep up today

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Postby Kevin NB8C' » Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:34 pm

I have owned 3 cars on that list... if you count a 86 Golf GTI, but that would be stretching it quite a bit

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Postby RayAR » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:29 pm

I just might be wrong about the 944 Porsche. It seems like you can find decent 924's and 944's for around $2000(Non turbo). I have heard they are one of the best handling Porsche. If I find one when I am ready to buy my next autocross car I might consider it. I think Ben Roberts in Helena had one for sale at one time. I probably won't be autocrossing next year so it really dosen't matter. Just to many bills right now.

Probably wrong about the C4 Vettes also. They are just my least favorite of all Vettes but that dosen't mean I would pass one up if it was a good deal.
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